I will not be able to meet you for inspection and collection, but I have a personal representative courier agent that will meet you for collection after payment has been made, the courier agent will also handle and sort all paper work or registration if needed on this purchase when they meet you for collection. If you are still concerned, we recommend you contact your bank. Scam Message I just received from edwardbrandonlee89 @ gmail.com in response to an ad I posted in Gumtree: Thanks a lot for the email. How far has the UK COVID-19 variant spread and what pace is it moving at? Most rigs do not have nurses on board. Acting Detective Sergeant Russ Connor warned users of Gumtree and other trading sites not to hand over items until a payment had been fully verified. If you're still concerned about giving out details, Mozo suggests opening an extra account (with no monthly fees) and keeping it separate from your main account. The scammer messaging me today is named Rob O Martin. We do not have access to receive calls at the moment,its 15 days off and 15 days on,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. These could be used in certain frauds, but the scenarios aren't useful for non-attributable scams. A spokeswoman for Gumtree said user safety and security was their main priority. With the issue of my details, transferring the name of ownership and signing of all paperwork will be done by the pick up agent. Thanks Mick! So I played the waiting game, nothing happened so reported as scam. Warning bells rang immediately. In terest bearing with $500 minimum balance for US Based consumer accounts. what's your final price? does it need anything to be replace or repair? They're using fake phone numbers, legitimate delivery drivers, the addresses that they are getting deliveries to are usually outside blocks of units. I will make a concrete pick up an arrangement with my transport agent who will be coming over for pick up once you receive full payment into your account. I can't believe I was so naive and really wish I had seen this article first. Cheers.. Liam. I bought the laptop back after â¦ I had an account hacked earlier this year and the cause was solely because my bank account had been linked to the PayPal account. So, we nurses perform with significant autonomy, and make medical decisions when necessary. Do you know who buys a 2nd hand vehicle over price and wants it shipped 2000km without even inspecting? If you did the bank transfer you will have his bank account number in whicn the police or your bank can action to reverse the transfer â¦ firstname.lastname@example.org has just written to me, wanting me to take down my add for a camera lens and send it to his kid in Tasmania. Below is the email I received. Any way to get scammed on GumTree via bank transfer? GUMTREE OR FACEBOOK MARKETPLACE = CASH ON PICKUP ONLY. I will need your Account name, BSB and Account number. Hey everyone. According to ING's David Breen, "In the unlikely event that an unauthorised transaction takes place on an ING Direct account, the customer will not be liable for the unauthorised transaction, provided they have complied with the terms and conditions of the account.". Do you think it's a scam? with the following information: 1)Your full name and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. So I gave up the grog, Scooter stolen in a 'ruse' involving fake money and 'bits of paper', Police investigating alleged murder of man stabbed in Ingham street, Family jumps into Murray River to escape boat fire near Blanchetown. Obviously any regular person would just buy it new from the retailer and have it shipped. An anonymous number gave me a text from GeoOp asking to e-mail Michelle Dobbins on email@example.com. This firstname.lastname@example.org has been doing this for over years and is still doing it today using the exact same email address. FYI - this is details from scam email I received 8 Sept 2019, The EXACT same thing just happened to me!!! When something is too good to be true, it isn't true. They are however a risk for deposits - never use any online direct deposit payment option. It is one phone call: hi I want this thing picked up from here and delivered here. Luckily it really wasnât a huge amount of money. Further she wanted to buy it and I disclosed my E-Mail address I'm using for PayPal and also my BSB and account number. me to take my ad down immediately, and asking for ymy full name BSP and account number and where did I live (address not emailed but suburb and city was provided). Thanks for the response,I would have loved to call you directly but due to the nature of my work we do not have access to phone at the moment,which is why I contact only contact you via email. Err on the side of caution. The contract is strictly no call due to the lack of reception on the sea area. No. It also says banks must try to identify customers who are at higher risk of becoming a victim, warn customers when they've spotted a scam and try to delay payments while investigating potential scams.It's worth noting the code only applies to transfers betweeâ¦ I don't understand. The red flags for spammers on Gumtree are usually dodgy English, asking questions already answered in the ad, brand new Gumtree accounts, and insisting on transactions being done by email rather than phone. The buyer should not be able to access your funds with just a BSB and account number. "There are a number of layers to the fraud. (Or they have people whose job is to just watch gumtree all day? He agreed and never sent a bank transfer but send me a tracking number saying he mailed another check. Anyway I ignored the niggling feeling because I was a bit excited I had a potential buyer so quickly. If you are still concerned, you may want to contact your bank. Just been scammed on Gumtree - how best to proceed? I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting..I am already in talks with freighters that will handle the pickup and delivery .I will really appreciate if you can email more info. I'm very pleased this site is following this. I just put an add on Gumtree last night and within 12 minutes I got a SMS on my phone asking to communicate via email. I will report this to Gumtree immediately. "With the NPP comes PayID, which allows you to use your phone number or email address rather than a BSB or account number as a simpler form of identification when sending or receiving payments," says Mozo's Marshall. Selling a ute and the offer to purchase came from onboard a Navy vessel so direct contact could not be made however a courier car transporter would pick up the vehicle and money would be transferred to my bank. I have also contacted my courier who will come for pick up and deliver it to Darwin after the whole funds has been cleared into your acct. I'm posting these here so other people can find them and avoid getting ripped off by dodgy Gumtree buyers. Same through happened to me... selling a car... got 4! I have a courier agent that would help me to pick it up at your preferred location after you have received your money and i'll pay you via PayPal once you are ready. Did a bank transfer through osko payid but was immediately blocked on everything. Further, the Paypal authorisation is likely to expire in the time it takes you to steal the person's paper bill (which would be very very conspicuous). Kindly send me a PayPal payment invoice or create an account at www.paypal.com if you don't have one or your bank details for me to make payment. I am away at sea at the moment,i work with New Zealand Oil and Gas (NZOG) and we are presently offshore in New Zealand Taranaki Basin on kapo project. I have a mover that will come for it once payment clears and they will take care of every necessary paper for me. Below is the email transcript I received with a couple of minutes of posting the Ad on gumtree: Bank account by using your Bank account details and you can easily set up They owe me a total of 1215. Unfortunately Gumtree will not do anything. "in talks with freight company to discuss pick up" - someone with that kind of money to waste and time to waste buying a $50 old bed from gumtree, pay for it to be sent halfway across the country would not be in "talks with freight company". I replied asking if she was local to me and if a bank transfer or cash on collection would be possible. Enjoyed reading that. You would think my answer would have been a resounding "yes!". You shouldnât be sending people money to their bank account as you have no protection. Almost immediately after posting my bed set I got a text asking if the 'furniture' was still available, and could I reply to this email email@example.com. A person working remotely on an open ocean oil rig or defence job would have a very high paying job and wont bother with 2nd hand gumtree stuff. The answer is a big fat NO. The fraudster will suggest sending you a cheque, pay via bank transfer or send you money online, but âby mistakeâ overpay you. I got scammed $175 off gumtree by someone called Dinesh Kumar Chennamaneni (he scammed a lot of other people too, watchout!). As long as people like yourself ignore those whopping big letters on Gumtree that say " GUMTREE IS FOR FACE TO FACE TRANSACTIONS ONLY DO NOT SEND MONEY", there will always be scammers because there are people silly enough to feed them. I cannot take calls or make one during this mission because it is prohibited, we are allowed to use internet facility only and I squeezed out time to search for the advert because I want the courier agent to deliver it to my new house in Riverton, South Australia before my arrival. Seven ways to help your small business flourish this year, listed some furniture for sale on Gumtree, Neobank Xinja pulls out of Australia just a year after launching, Ponzi schemes to Panama Papers: Seven financial scams that shook the world. (e.g. I am buying it for my new apartment and i want it delivered before my arrival.I won't be able to come for the inspection due to the nature of my work and i would have called but our calling is restricted. So, we nurses perform with significant autonomy, and make medical decisions when necessary) I don't need to know this. and why are you selling if you don't mind my asking. We did it the old-fashioned way - he sent me a cheque. Eventually she would have said that she was having trouble with the courier, and could I spot her the pick-up fees? After all, I've given my bank details to just about everyone and anyone who wanted money from me or owed me money and I've had no problems whatsoever. Total nightmare. The scammers operate by contacting sellers and asking to buy items such as cars, machinery and mechanical parts, valued between $1,000 and $25,000, sight unseen. Scammers then insist on immediately transferring money by electronic bank transfer, before sending a photograph of a fake receipt and a copy of a fraudulently obtained driver's licence. (Of course it is, I just posted my ad?) If I give someone my account number on my card can they hack my paypal account or do they need more info? The transaction occurs via email, where the scammer says they will pay via PayPal. I've just been through similar thing several times regarding a gold necklace I had for sale on gumtree. Phew, just got one in response to my car listing, Wizkid Davido 10 min ago I received an sms and email with the exact same story but with a different name, from someone working in the mining in NT asking for my PP or BSB as I want to sell a suitcase in gumtree. And i dont believe there are any PayPal fees for what would be personal transfers, and with all the repeated phrases about payment via PayPal (counted "PayPal" 7 times in one email) a real person wouldn't need lengthy and repetitive sob stories explaining further sob stories to buy a simple secondhand bed or car or old dog blanket from gumtree. Rates are subject to change at any time at bankâs discretion. You should also make sure your internet banking is secure with a strong password, and monitor your accounts for suspicious activity. The reality is that you would also need to know the billing address in the very small chance the user is still receiving regular paper bills. The good news about PayPal scams is that there are several actionable steps merchants can take to prevent or avoid them. Or you will end up posting on OzBargain with the other hundred "got scammed on gumtree" threads. Once you transfer the money TO a seller, there is no gurantee the seller will send the item. I don't mind adding an extra $300.00 for you just to take down the posting. This is very late to the party, but this would only then mean you need to swipe a statement from the bank if the target still uses paper bills.. the "reference numbers" are 2 sub 5c amounts deposited into your account. Where is it located at the moment? I would appreciate if you email me with more pictures (if available) too since i won't be be able to see this in person,what's the PayPal email to send funds to in order for me to pay you ASAP,And if you don't have a paypal account, it is very easy to set up, go to www.paypal.com.au and get it set up. He was wrong. Were your accounts ever compromised? If possibly so, what can you do to prevent or stop this? So glad to see Exactly the same scenario as happened to me today. Thanks for your write up on the possible scenarios of online scammers. Chargeback also applies to credit card transactions but will be particularly useful where goods cost less than £100 and so section 75 doesnât apply. to you ASAP. The article is accurate - BSB and account numbers aren't a risk for withdrawals against you. Kept saying he had put money into my PayPal and nothing showed up so I blocked him quick smart, Thanks for the swift response am 100% keen to buy this Vehicle, Am buying it for my lovely Son who just graduated on top of his class in Australia national university (ANU) ,he studied Business Law and Professional Ethics Minor and am so proud of him . reply him directly via (firstname.lastname@example.org) now". Gumtree scams - the tricks criminals use to catch you out and how to use the online marketplace safely Thousands of people use Gumtree to shop and buy every day - â¦ Where is it located at the moment? i just gave someone the account name bsb and account number. ASIC has warned against insider trading, but what exactly is it? Putting this aside, though, unauthorised direct debits from accounts can and do occur. TOTAL SCAM. Thanks so much everyone for sharing these messages from Gumtree scammers! Best form of payment to not get scammed (Gumtree) organic355. I smelt a rat, slowly I'll admit but mainly as I thought it unusual to get pretty much the same story (of being offshore and not having a phone) from two different people within minutes of ad posted and further one of the people first said he was Mark and in a later email his address was James. I'm a member of the Australian Defence Force and our Australian personnel are also currently deployed to the Middle East Region for the Force Support Element (FSE) till December. Since I'm requesting this transaction to be done via PayPal, i will be responsible for all the paypal charges on this transaction and if you do not have an account with paypal, its pretty easy, safe and secured to open one. What happened in your case in the end? So they are still red hot at it! It was as if an alert had gone out that a new victim was online. Why are you providing so much information about your situation?? Apparently, this charity didn't require a signature to set up a direct debit but it would be a little harder to do it in Australia as signatures are generally required. ie Direct debit agreement where payment goes to a merchant, as per the Clarkson example provided. "The buyer's mate came and picked up the item and a couple of days later the money hadn't cleared so I made my own inquiries and found out that I had been scammed," John said. I too just received an e-mail from our friend Daniel Jonothan with pretty much the exact story ($300 to take the add down etc), claimed he was a medical doctor. Does it have any history I should be aware of? In total I receive 3 bad checks. Youâll then be asked to pay them back the extra. "Many Australian banks are working to ensure payments using NPP will be protected by their own fraud and security initiatives," says Marshall. This just happened to me!! Tel: 312-621-1200 (Ext 255-252-212) Credit cards will provide you with recovery options/protection if you monitor it. If you want to use chargeback to get your money back after a scam, this letter template could help. Only after threatening to report a flippant and dismissive PayPal to certain financial authorities, did they do an instant 360 degree turnaround and couldn't help me fast enough, even going to far as to refund every dollar that had been stolen almost instantly. Hi all, I want it to be the perfect graduation gift for my daughter and am making it a surprise package as well for her, Are you the real first owner? How do I know this? Commonwealth Bank says that providing account details to a third party to receive or debit funds occurs daily and while this is OK it does advise that "any personal information, including banking details, should only be given if there is genuine need for a third party to know the details, ie, to receive funds or to set up a regular direct debit". This lovely car will be as a surprise! I work with the Australian Naval Service. Oh dear I am afraid I have been scammed well I definitely have. And was curious why they wanted my email address outside of gumtree messaging ... of course now I realise why... and why they wanted my paypal account details. She worked on an oil rig (New Zealand Oil & Gas) and was presently offshore so was unable to answer any phone calls. There's a reason Gumtree prefers all transactions to take place locally and in person - there are shady characters online. Someone contacted me offering to pay the price I have requested. He says faked receipts looked like the real thing and that identifying the perpetrators had been difficult. This Exact thing just happened to me. But, there are no guarantees your bank will be able to recover the money through chargeback. Chris at Launceston Tas Bank transfer into someones account is exactly how 99.9% of transactions safely occured before paypal shoved it's way into the market. We do not have access to phone at the moment,its 5days off and 25days on,which is why I contacted you with internet messaging facility. 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